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	<description>A blog about water-related environmental topics by Mark Gold, D. Env., President of Heal the Bay</description>
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		<title>Comment on Something&#8217;s Fishy by joe farlo</title>
		<link>http://spoutingoff.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/somethings-fishy/#comment-721</link>
		<dc:creator>joe farlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the topsmelt that were contaminated came from 2 distinct point sources for PCB contamination the
LA breakwall and marina del rey breakwall 

in fact the topsmelt caught off of flat rock in north PV were used as the &quot;surrogate reference&quot; to make consumption recommendations outside of the red zone ironic isn&#039;t it?

the fish caught off of MDR had fat content much higher then in other areas fish accumulate fat and PCB&#039;s seasonally

But please don’t take my word for this, educate yourself and make your own choices by reading the original articles 
2002-2004 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COASTAL MARINE FISH CONTAMINANTS SURVEY
Pg 32 has the reference map pages 99-103 have the individual fish analysis
http://www.epa.gov/region09/superfund/pvshelf/pdf/montrose_report.pdf   
Then read the OEHHA interpretation of this study just published. Page21 has topsmelt guidance
http://oehha.ca.gov/fish/so_cal/pdf_zip/SoCalAdvisoryl61809.pdf

for full commentary go to
http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=87379</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the topsmelt that were contaminated came from 2 distinct point sources for PCB contamination the<br />
LA breakwall and marina del rey breakwall </p>
<p>in fact the topsmelt caught off of flat rock in north PV were used as the &#8220;surrogate reference&#8221; to make consumption recommendations outside of the red zone ironic isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>the fish caught off of MDR had fat content much higher then in other areas fish accumulate fat and PCB&#8217;s seasonally</p>
<p>But please don’t take my word for this, educate yourself and make your own choices by reading the original articles<br />
2002-2004 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COASTAL MARINE FISH CONTAMINANTS SURVEY<br />
Pg 32 has the reference map pages 99-103 have the individual fish analysis<br />
<a href="http://www.epa.gov/region09/superfund/pvshelf/pdf/montrose_report.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.epa.gov/region09/superfund/pvshelf/pdf/montrose_report.pdf</a><br />
Then read the OEHHA interpretation of this study just published. Page21 has topsmelt guidance<br />
<a href="http://oehha.ca.gov/fish/so_cal/pdf_zip/SoCalAdvisoryl61809.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://oehha.ca.gov/fish/so_cal/pdf_zip/SoCalAdvisoryl61809.pdf</a></p>
<p>for full commentary go to<br />
<a href="http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=87379" rel="nofollow">http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=87379</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tern for the Better by Edith Read</title>
		<link>http://spoutingoff.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/a-tern-for-the-better/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>Edith Read</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark -- a great essay, and many thanks. In response to Marcia, to correct a few misunderstandings: the Freshwater Marsh IS working out as planned. The least tern IS foraging at the Freshwater Marsh -- on mosquito fish stocked by the Los Angeles County West Vector and Vector-Borne Disease Control District. During their breeding season, the terns can be seen in large numbers, diving for the fish, by anyone walking along the public trail of the Freshwater Marsh.  While this fish is not native, it is part of a mosquito abatement program that was approved by all permitting agencies as part of plans for the Freshwater Marsh. True -- not all things are working like everyone thought -- but in a positive way. While plans for the Freshwater Marsh were moving forward, no one foresaw that the endangered least tern would return to Ballona in such large numbers, far above those seen foraging along the former Centinela Ditch, because of the presence of a non-native fish.  Obviously, mosquito abatement alternatives that employ native fish must be found, but meanwhile, a species on the brink of extinction has a reliable food source. Ruth and the rest of us who are dedicated to science-based restoration see the least tern as a positive sign of what can be accomplished at the Ballona Wetlands. 
Edith Read
Manager, Ballona Freshwater Marsh
Board Member, Friends of Ballona Wetlands</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8212; a great essay, and many thanks. In response to Marcia, to correct a few misunderstandings: the Freshwater Marsh IS working out as planned. The least tern IS foraging at the Freshwater Marsh &#8212; on mosquito fish stocked by the Los Angeles County West Vector and Vector-Borne Disease Control District. During their breeding season, the terns can be seen in large numbers, diving for the fish, by anyone walking along the public trail of the Freshwater Marsh.  While this fish is not native, it is part of a mosquito abatement program that was approved by all permitting agencies as part of plans for the Freshwater Marsh. True &#8212; not all things are working like everyone thought &#8212; but in a positive way. While plans for the Freshwater Marsh were moving forward, no one foresaw that the endangered least tern would return to Ballona in such large numbers, far above those seen foraging along the former Centinela Ditch, because of the presence of a non-native fish.  Obviously, mosquito abatement alternatives that employ native fish must be found, but meanwhile, a species on the brink of extinction has a reliable food source. Ruth and the rest of us who are dedicated to science-based restoration see the least tern as a positive sign of what can be accomplished at the Ballona Wetlands.<br />
Edith Read<br />
Manager, Ballona Freshwater Marsh<br />
Board Member, Friends of Ballona Wetlands</p>
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		<title>Comment on Something&#8217;s Fishy by Heather Wylie</title>
		<link>http://spoutingoff.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/somethings-fishy/#comment-704</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Wylie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Folks, 

I would like to suggest ground flax seeds or Flax seed oil as a good daily source of omega-3 (instead of PCB, DDT, Hg-CH3 filled fish).  Omega-3 is very important for your body.  I am a chemist and extremly fit-healthy.  I make sure to add ground flax seeds to my food every day.  I never get sick, or tired so it seems to be working well.  Whole flax seeds just pass through your system, the omega-3 in them is not bio-available until they are ground or turned into to pure oil by compressing them. I like the ground flax as its also a good source of fiber.

Mark, Thanks for sharing this study!  TOP SMELT!  Have you figured it out yet?   What was going on at the time of the study? Large storm events? Upwelling?  Strong Santa Annas.....?????  I wonder if something happened to cause a temporary spike in the concentration of these in the water at the time of ths study which hadn&#039;t biomagnifed up the food chain yet to show up in the larger fish.  Very intresting!!!  I would not have guessed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Folks, </p>
<p>I would like to suggest ground flax seeds or Flax seed oil as a good daily source of omega-3 (instead of PCB, DDT, Hg-CH3 filled fish).  Omega-3 is very important for your body.  I am a chemist and extremly fit-healthy.  I make sure to add ground flax seeds to my food every day.  I never get sick, or tired so it seems to be working well.  Whole flax seeds just pass through your system, the omega-3 in them is not bio-available until they are ground or turned into to pure oil by compressing them. I like the ground flax as its also a good source of fiber.</p>
<p>Mark, Thanks for sharing this study!  TOP SMELT!  Have you figured it out yet?   What was going on at the time of the study? Large storm events? Upwelling?  Strong Santa Annas&#8230;..?????  I wonder if something happened to cause a temporary spike in the concentration of these in the water at the time of ths study which hadn&#8217;t biomagnifed up the food chain yet to show up in the larger fish.  Very intresting!!!  I would not have guessed!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bagging a Win by Heather Wylie</title>
		<link>http://spoutingoff.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/bagging-a-win/#comment-703</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Wylie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YEAH!!!!!!  Great job!!!  

An EIR!  LOL--well I bet they got some flak from the other three horse men who would perfer to keep the EIR threshold trigers lower then a reduction in plastic bags!  We got a double win on this one!  I love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEAH!!!!!!  Great job!!!  </p>
<p>An EIR!  LOL&#8211;well I bet they got some flak from the other three horse men who would perfer to keep the EIR threshold trigers lower then a reduction in plastic bags!  We got a double win on this one!  I love it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bagging a Win by Anne Tobin</title>
		<link>http://spoutingoff.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/bagging-a-win/#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Tobin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update!  Any idea on when the studies will be completed?</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Definition of Insanity by Bagging a Win &#171; Spoutingoff&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://spoutingoff.wordpress.com/2009/01/14/the-definition-of-insanity/#comment-695</link>
		<dc:creator>Bagging a Win &#171; Spoutingoff&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] city already had the strongest single-use bag reduction ordinance in California, but council members delayed their final vote because of the Save the Plastic Bag [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Plastic Politics by Bagging a Win &#171; Spoutingoff&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://spoutingoff.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/plastic-politics/#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator>Bagging a Win &#171; Spoutingoff&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] measure has been stalled by a recent misguided court ruling that required cities’ to complete EIRs if they wanted to remove single-use bags from their [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Something&#8217;s Fishy by kesehatan</title>
		<link>http://spoutingoff.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/somethings-fishy/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>kesehatan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>consuming food that contamined with DDT will make us 2-3 times more risk to cancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>consuming food that contamined with DDT will make us 2-3 times more risk to cancer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Something&#8217;s Fishy by New local fish eating guidelines for SoCal: Bye bye to barred sand bass &#124; green LA girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>New local fish eating guidelines for SoCal: Bye bye to barred sand bass &#124; green LA girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DDTs, chlordane, dieldrin, and mercury. As Mark Gold, president of local environmental nonprofit Heal the Bay explains: &#8220;DDT and PCB manufacturing was banned over 30 years ago, but there are still over 100 tons [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DDTs, chlordane, dieldrin, and mercury. As Mark Gold, president of local environmental nonprofit Heal the Bay explains: &#8220;DDT and PCB manufacturing was banned over 30 years ago, but there are still over 100 tons [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Something&#8217;s Fishy by nhb</title>
		<link>http://spoutingoff.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/somethings-fishy/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>nhb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is something everyone who does consumptive fishing should know about -- there was some local coverage at &lt;a href=&quot;http://sealbeachdaily.com/2009/06/19/state-issues-new-safe-eating-guidelines-for-some-fish-caught-in-waters-off-seal-beach&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seal Beach Daily&lt;/a&gt; as well.  But definitely not enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something everyone who does consumptive fishing should know about &#8212; there was some local coverage at <a href="http://sealbeachdaily.com/2009/06/19/state-issues-new-safe-eating-guidelines-for-some-fish-caught-in-waters-off-seal-beach" rel="nofollow">Seal Beach Daily</a> as well.  But definitely not enough.</p>
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